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Hon.
Bill Blaikie
In April 2008 the Centre for the Study of Democracy at Queens University
published Everything Old is New Again: Observations on Parliamentary Reform.
On May 30, 2008 the author of the report, Tom Axworthy, discussed the report
at a seminar organized by the Library of Parliament. The Deputy Speaker
of the House of Commons was also invited to discuss the ideas put forth
in this document. The following is an edited version of his comments.
I was first elected to the House of Commons in 1979 and have been involved
in all major attempts at parliamentary reform since then. I was a member
of the Lefebvre Committee, the McGrath Committee, and the Modernization
Committees. It is only in the last few years as Deputy Speaker that I
have not been involved in some of the work that has gone on with respect
to parliamentary reform.
As a general comment I would say the Axworthy report1 is a little too reliant
on the provision of extra resources to resolve problems that have developed.
But before I make some specific comments let me try to diagnose what has
happened to Parliament particularly in terms of some external forces.
The role of Parliament has been diminished by one of its own creations
the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. This is not necessarily
a negative but it is an empirical fact. Many more things are now decided
by the courts. Even some things that now appear to be decided by Parliament
are basically done in response to decisions that have already been made
in the courts.
Similarly trade agreements like NAFTA and the WTO have removed a number
of things that Parliament can decide. Many matters have been taken outside
the parliamentary arena. Some might rejoice that certain provisions have
been enshrined in these agreements. But whatever your view, there are matters
with respect to cultural policy, with respect to generic drugs, with respect
to water, with respect to energy policy that were once within the purview
of Parliament and are now outside it, unless we annul or amend in some
way the various trade agreements that we now belong to.
The role of First Ministers is another example. The last major reorganization
of Medicare took place at a first ministers conference whereas in earlier
years, it was Parliament that did that through Canada Health Act and the
Standing Committee on Health and Welfare. Parliament addressed problems
that existed at that time with respect to extra billing by physicians and
user fees.
The development of public opinion polling means that members of Parliament
are no longer needed to the same extent as they were years ago when it
comes to telling the party leadership what the people are thinking. The
parties and the leaders have too many focus groups going on to pay as much
attention to members of Parliament.
And finally we should keep in mind what I call the anti-politician cult
that developed in the early 1990s. This manifested itself in the overwhelming
rejection of the Charlottetown Accord which was seen as a product of politicians
in the pejorative sense of that term. I think something happened in that
era that we have not really got to the bottom of yet. There was also a
great loss of institutional memory in the 1993 election. Some of the problems
we have now, it seems to me, can be traced to that particular election.
So it is important when trying to fix Parliament to realize that it is
less significant in some ways because that might help us to understand
how the public regards it and why they have some of the attitudes that
they do.
Civility and Collegiality
These concepts are key to successful parliamentary institutions and I think
there has been an erosion of both compared to the era when I came to Parliament.
Some of the reasons are purely technological. I did not have a TV in my
office in 1979. Now you do not have to go to the House of Commons to listen.
That is a convenience but how much damage has that done to collegiality
and people being together?
Cell phones and Blackberries have made us more atomistic. I used to get
to know members of Parliament, not only from my own province, but from
other parties, when we rode in the cab together from the airport. Now,
if you ride in a cab with somebody, you just listen to him or her talk
to somebody else on the cell phone. You might as well catch a cab by yourself.
The same is true in the lobbies. People are sitting there, not talking
to each other. They are on their Blackberries or on their cell phones.
People are not together in the dining room anymore. This is all a product
of the anti-politician cult because the dining room was seen as some horrific
perk that needed to be wiped off the face of the earth.
So members of other parties do not meet each other. They do not meet each
others families. They are not humanized in the way they would be if we
all ate in the same place.
I caught the end of an era when everybody would run down to the House because
Trudeau or some of the other Leaders were going to speak. Some of it had
to do with the issues. Those were the constitutional debates. They were
big-ticket items.
I also remember leaders, John Turner and Joe Clark come to mind, who went
out of their way to show respect and concern for collegiality in the House
of Commons. They saw it as a venue for bringing people together. When Joe
Clark was Minister of Foreign Affairs he used the House of Commons as the
venue for announcements and ministerial statements. It was an example that
I wish more ministers would emulate.
Decorum is also a problem both in the House and in committee. There have
been all kinds of attempts to improve decorum. But we have to keep this
in perspective. Perhaps unruly behaviour is reflective of what is happening
in society generally. It also reflects the fact that wrong behaviour is
consistently rewarded by the media. But if you look at articles from the1960s
and change a few names they could be referring to what is happening in
the House these days.
Procedural Issues
I do think a number of procedural changes could improve the way parliament
works. With respect to parliamentary secretaries, I agree that they should
not be Privy Councillors. I think that was a mistake on the part of Prime
Minister Paul Martin. I agree that they should be chosen more carefully
and rotated less, and perhaps appointed for the whole Parliament. But their
involvement on committees should either be banned or else we need a whole
new way of thinking about committees.
Parliamentary secretaries were actually removed from committees in the
1980s. The McGrath committee took advantage of the fact that Prime Minister
Mulroney had not been in Parliament too long and did not know what he was
giving up! That experiment was short lived but I think we need to review
the role of parliamentary secretaries.
I certainly favour the use of parliamentary task forces that were used
in the late 1980s and early 1990s. I served on the Task Force on Federal
Provincial Fiscal Arrangements which was one of five or six very useful
bodies that contributed to development of public policy in several areas
where there was not a huge partisan division.
Committees (and task forces) used to have matters referred to them by the
government. Now they have the ability to choose their own topics to study.
There is always a long list of topics to study. Many of them are valuable
but some are make work projects. The committees never have any rest and
on top of all the studies is piled private members business.
When I came here private members business was not votable. As a result
of changes to the rules some of them became votable and when I was NDP
Leader, I fought to prevent every Private Members' Bill from becoming votable.
But now they are all votable and all kinds of private members legislation
is sent to committees. And because the house no longer sits in the evenings
the work has been telescoped into a much shorter time frame.
Every reform has unintended consequences and when the rules were changed
to abolish evening sittings it was anticipated the time would be used for
committee work. But instead everything got packed into shorter days and
weeks. Committees have become more frenetic and less useful. So when I
see suggestions for some kind of citizen engagement process tacked onto
committees, I just wonder how that is going to work.
I do agree that the deadlock and other problems we have seen in committee
illustrates the need for the Speaker to have more power.
Concluding Thoughts
Let me conclude with two points, one about parties and the other of a more
pastoral nature, perhaps reflecting my training and perspective as a United
Church Minister.
The Axworthy report says that our political parties must become vehicles
for thinking as well as organising. It recommends that some public money
go to parties for policy research and for party-sponsored think tanks.
That is one of the highlights of the report, as far as I am concerned.
We should emulate what goes on particularly in Germany and in most European
countries.
I should say that my party, the NDP, has regular policy conventions and
the leaders will tell you that they still feel a relationship with the
membership with respect to policy. But the whole decline of participation,
the aging of party membership, the lack of participation in elections,
this seems to me to be something that all parties need to be concerned
about.
My final point is about the nature of the institution and the attitudes
of the people who serve in it. Parliament is not a soap opera. Nor is it
a football match and certainly it must not become a kind of ultimate fighting
where absolutely anything goes.
What is needed and what is missing, I would argue, is a sense of forgiveness.
At the moment our Parliament is very much driven by a sense of revenge.
You exaggerated what we did now we are going to exaggerate what you did.
And on it goes. Surely, at some point someone has to forgive and we move
on.
Perhaps this can only occur when there is a majority government to provide
a cooling off period. This is not an argument for majority government,
just an observation of a member of Parliament who has been watching the
House of Commons for nearly thirty years. The cycle of revenge must be
broken. Until that happens I am afraid many of the good reforms suggested
in the Axworthy paper will never see the light of day.
Notes
1. See Thomas Axworthy, Every Old is New Again, Centre for the Study
of Democracy, Queens University, Kingston, April 2008. Also Thomas Axworthy,
Parliamentary Reform -- Everything Old is New Again, Policy Options,
vol. 29, June 2008.
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